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Ok... so now that we know Baltor isn't a Cylon (or do we...) so who is? Let's guess who the final five Cylons are.
My Vote: Kara and Felix Gaeta.
Kara knows too much, (remember the Eye of Jupiter?) and Felix Gaeta handed Sharron the gun when she shot Adama. I have no idea who the others might be though. |
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| Message Posted On Monday, January 29th 2007 At 4:33 pm |
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I don't think Starbuck is Cylon. She knows the drawing of the eye of jupiter, but it's similar to Roslin thinking she's the one who will lead her people to salvation in Kobol. These people are mythical.
Based on the last episode, I think Gaeta might be a cylon. Cylons tend to have a thing for Baltar. |
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| Message Posted On Monday, January 29th 2007 At 9:51 pm |
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I haven't seen the last episode yet so I don't know if it makes any difference but I've been thinking Gaeta was a Cylon for a while. I wasn't entirely convinced the Cylons broke through his firewall so easily without help whether he knew about it or not. |
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| Message Posted On Tuesday, January 30th 2007 At 1:37 am |
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Spoiler for Rapture if you haven't seen it.
Ok, D'anna saw the final 5, but she obviously recognizes only one of them and she appoligized to him/her. That means one of the final 5 came in conflict with D'anna once and the only guy I could think of is Tigh back in the episode FInal Cut. |
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| Message Posted On Saturday, February 10th 2007 At 2:00 pm |
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| On Monday, January 29th 2007 4:33 pm, nishikaze wrote: | | Felix Gaeta handed Sharron the gun when she shot Adama. |
There's no evidence of that, you know.
But yes, Three definitely recognised one of the five. However, we should keep in mind that her apology can be interpreted outside of direct contact. She could be apologising for something she did that she believes hurt (not necessarily physically) someone in the fleet or more specifically on New Caprica, even if she wasn't directly or entirely involved; or it's simply something we never saw onscreen.
It'll be interesting to see how the Final Five thing unfolds, because that threw a wrench into what we know the humanoid Cylons and makes guessing more difficult. Because if even the seven known models are unaware of their identity of the five, then all of the rules we know can be broken. Are any of the five aware they're Cylons? Were they even programmed to infiltrate the colonies/fleet? Could they have been actually designed to perfectly blend into human society with no ulterior motive?
I'm only going to hope it's Kara. It's a very cheap reason, but if she's a Cylon, that means more Katee Sackhoff goodness. |
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| Message Posted On Monday, February 19th 2007 At 8:39 am |
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The following is a super spoiler! I now know who the cylons are! Or at least some of them.
Tigh, Galen Tyrol, Anders, Tori.
You have been warned. |
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| Message Posted On Monday, March 19th 2007 At 5:59 am |
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I'm assuming you're basing this off the first "Crossroads" episode. In that case, you shouldn't have to hide it.
Second: again, assuming you're deducing from that episode, what evidence is there that Tyrol is a Cylon?
Third: Despite what I said in the episode discussion, I now take back my claim that Tigh is a Cylon. After posting that, I remembered that he fought in the Cylon War. Most evidence points towards the fact that the Cylons created themselves in man's image some years after the war ended. If that piece of evidence is a bit too greasy for you. Deleted scenes in the miniseries make mention of Tigh having a father and even grandfather. So I have heavy doubts. There is definitely a connection to Tory and Anders, however, as he hears the same music. So either none of them are Cylons, or there's a specific reason why he would hear what the (alleged) Cylons hear. |
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| Message Posted On Monday, March 19th 2007 At 11:52 pm |
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All of my evidence comes from the spoilers at scifi.com. All of the spoilers for part one were accurate so it is quite safe to assume that the spoilers for the second episode are equally as accurate, which is why I had them hidden.
Also the final five Cylons were said to break every rule that governs the Cylons. So it doesn't matter about a father or grandfather. This is from the writer of the show!
And the final five were around for 5000 years! Which means that they were not as you said... created themselves in man's image some years after the war ended. Breaking yet another rule.
According to the spoiler the music draws the four of them to a launch tube where they claim to be Cylons.
Also... Baltar gets off. |
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| Message Posted On Tuesday, March 20th 2007 At 9:47 am |
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Well, if you're getting spoilers, then that's something different. I'd rather not go there.
I'm still not sure how they can be that old when the first Cylon (entirely machine before they took human form decades later) was built a lot more recently (info on the proposed Caprica sequel puts a stamp of about only half a century). You maybe confused the final five with the figures in the Temple of Five. While there's no doubt a connection, I'm unsure that they are the same. Of course, I'm ready for anything.
I still doubt Tigh is a Cylon, though, and now have doubts about the others hearing the music. But again, I'd rather not debate spoilers; I'd prefer speculation. |
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| Message Posted On Sunday, March 25th 2007 At 1:22 am |
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I was wrong. I'll admit it ,and take it like a man.
So now, we're faced with who is the last and final Cylon. I'll lay bet that this Cylon will be unveiled as a major character. After the miniseries, the Cylons turned out to be never-before seen characters. Now, four of the Final Five turn out to be supporting characters. I think we've gone past suspecting Gaeta at this point. Aside from all evidence pointing towards a saboteur when we know the Final Five sect to be a different breed and possibly of a different ideaology, it would be a suck of a shock to see the last Cylon to be another one on the sidelines. No, I'm certain that one of the characters played by a series star will turn out to be our 12th Cylon. My best guess right now is Roslin. That she is a Cylon leading humanity to a promised land away from the Cylons would score big on the irony scale. However, the issue of her dying conflicts with this. I'm not sure the prophecy plays out well if the dying leader can download into a new body (of course, we still don't know if the Final Five can be caught in a resurrection factory), but it's mainly that the blood of a half-breed, Hera, cured her from cancer, and even then, only temporarily. But again, we know little about how the Final Five were/are set up, so it's open right now. |
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| Message Posted On Saturday, June 2nd 2007 At 3:09 am |
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I thought about Roslin b/c after the fleet jumped to the nebula, she experienced something, don't know what that is but she experienced something. It's similar to what Tigh, Tory, Anders, and Terol experienced, as they all went nuts and went into this room.
But if it wasn't for this episode, I would never see Roslin as a Cylon. Plus, Mary McDonald and Eddy Olmos have strong feeling against their characters as Cylons. Nothing much they can do about it if it was Moore's intention, but I don't think they want their characters to be Cylons. |
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| Message Posted On Saturday, June 2nd 2007 At 11:49 am |
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