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Morning_Star
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Message Posted On Friday, March 20th 2009 at 3:04 pm
I want to first say that I feel disappointed in myself for not making more attempts at at least initiating episode discussions, especially for this, the final season. I'm going to try to make up for it to some degree by starting the one for the last episode - the big enchilada we've all been waiting for.

It's doubtful that as late as I'm posting this, that many will come here to inject their personal theories about how it's going to end, what many mysterious will be revealed and how, and who will survive and what will be left of them.

This late into the game, I've kind of tossed out any attempt at circling a notion about what will transpire in these 2 hours and 11 minutes. I've felt that it's best to just sit back and enjoy the ride for any attempt at hoping any theory of mine will come to fruition is likely to leave me with a loss of enjoyment. This show has absolutely failed at going at however I thought it was going to spill out it storytelling guts, so why bother making predictions.

Nevertheless, I'm certain that this episode will produce a great many discussions positive, negative, and maybe even the indifferent. But there will be a great much to talk about.

I also need to reiterate that the finale will run 2 hours and 11 minutes. It seems that this was a last minute discovery and/or leak (Sci Fi didn't put up the notice until sometime today, yet it's still not reflected in their schedule), so please be advised if you're recording this.
gakhandal
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Message Posted On Saturday, March 21st 2009 at 7:49 am
Don't know. the finale left a bitter taste. I liked like half of the finale.
I lol'd in the scene where everything went to hell and Cavil ended up putting a gun in his mouth! Did not expect that. To think about it, I really liked the entire final five scene, with Opera house chase, killing Tory etc.

Wasn't a big fan of the flashbacks. Though they were entertaining. They should have done those for an episode on their own this past season.

There were a few things that seemed like a cop out, to be honest. I know the show always had it's god and faith aspects, but really? A supreme being planed everything? Earth 2? Send all of their ships and technology to the sun? (<- And nobody objects to that decision? Break the cycle / Clean slate my ass.) Kara's an Angel and disappears?

Also, some remaining questions where answered on these interviews with David Eick and Ron Moore:
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avstars

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Message Posted On Saturday, March 21st 2009 at 10:20 pm
One thing I liked about this show is how it ties to the world we lived in and they did they nicely in the finale.

The only question that still nags me is how is Kara "the hypenger of death"? She looks like an angel to me.

Overall, Battlestar Galactica is no doubt one of the best shows on TV.
beatnik

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Message Posted On Monday, March 23rd 2009 at 6:46 am
I believe the Hybrid said "Harbinger of Death" but then again IDK as i have not read the script but thats what it sounded like to me the whole time. And I think Harbinger is the word that fits my thorium so thats what ill go with. With the Definition of Harbinger is a sign of things to come This is why I think that was all about the fact she brought them to "Original Earth". I could be Very wrong but I believe after they found Earth (the first time) they kinda stopped saying that I am not Sure if Anders Said it to her after or not but I believe that is what it was referring to. Being the fact she is a Sign of death as she is Dead.Another possibility is she lead the Skin jobs to death? One Question I have is her Origin as she was seen exploding in one scene but then her body and wreckage ended up on Original Earth? Was it some kind of Wormhole? Or is it just unexplained and she was an Angel/Messenger in the first place and was there to fulfill a purpose and thats it?

After reading the articles posted above The producers wanted to leave most of her to our own devices and to think what we want (this has been done before on tv)

I do like the fact they did not go with the idea that they would find earth in a pre human world one with dinosaurs and such I wouldn't have liked that as much as I could not see them surviving without their (technology).

Although the fact that we have some of the technology they said they would not have shared. The producers said it is tied with the collective consciousness of the cylons that we have gotten from "Harrah" so inside our brains should be information to their technology. one thing about Harrah is her name I don't know if anyone looked into her name as the fact it is a palindrome being spelled the same way forward and backward almost like how the whole basis of "what has happened will happen again and has happened before" IDK if i am digging too deep as the producers said many things like this were just large speculation by the fans and had nothing to do with the story.

I really liked the fact the centurions got to leave and earn their freedom and possibly evolve into skin jobs again as nothing has really changed for them except the fact they have been freed by the skin jobs although they created them so IDK about that.

In all after that long statement all about my own ideas I really hope to see a lot of Spin offs in miniseries and DVD Movie Form Like we will get with the Miniseries called Battlestar Galactica "The Plan" and the DVD called Caprica

I love that they ended the story and the show didn't turn into another "LOST" A show I liked and still like but am disappointed in as it has taken so many different directions in the storyline they are digging themselves into a whole and I don't know if they will be able to deliver a good ending now. So I am still Interested in Spin offs that may tell me more about the story. It will be Very odd to see "The Plan" and have Cavil I suppose being the main character as it is their side of the story and since Cavil knew a lot more than we did the whole time it will provide some answers. Along with "Caprica" and the story of the first cylon I believe... but don't know this is why i am excited and will be ordering my copy as i want more and hope there will be if enough people buy so get your copy. Like the Stargate DVDs I bet "caprica" will show on SciFi but not for at least 6 mos and You never know as The same with Stargate they are making a new series right now. As the fact BSG was originally a remake with a twist now with the way they only made 4 seasons (VERY SHORT FOR SUCH A SERIES) it leaves a lot of room for more and I think the Public wants more. I am sorry for this Humongous Rant And if it is unreadable at this point IDK LOL so In all I Liked everything and Hope for More.

That is all I have Left to say at this point as i could talk about it forever and do nothing but speculate so it serves no purpose but hoping there is enough of a fan base still that wants more that they will give it to us!

In all I like that they ended it for me it seamed too soon (they only looked for a planet for 4 years? I think it would take much longer. Even With FTL (does that mean "Faster Than Light?") Drives since every jump is a shoot in the dark. I HOPE this Sets a storyline and they can be used to make more movies spin offs and Miniseries Like i said before as I think i am not the only one that wants more. Although i know they wont answer any of the questions that were meant to be unanswered "I hope!" but There is still a lot more to talk about. Its early for me an i will begin to repeat myself and talk in circles so i will now stop but this is just my ideas hopes and such.

Thanks for listening to me if you got this far! LOL
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Message Posted On Monday, March 23rd 2009 at 5:24 pm
On Saturday, March 21st 2009 7:49 am, gakhandal wrote:
There were a few things that seemed like a cop out, to be honest. I know the show always had it's god and faith aspects, but really? A supreme being planed everything?


Yep. The "God and Faith" aspects turned out to be no overexaggeration. Refreshing.

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Send all of their ships and technology to the sun? (<- And nobody objects to that decision? Break the cycle / Clean slate my ass.)


Of course somebody would object to the fleet being hurtled into the sun, somebody ALWAYS objects to something. Hence every war ever fought on this planet.

Lee wanted to explore Earth for a reason...you think when the seeds of rebellion begin, he wants to be anywhere near it?

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Kara's an Angel and disappears?


Pretty much. Again, she had completed her journey, exorcised her demons, and stayed true to her beleifs and her husband, finally letting go of her impulsive crush on homewrecker Lee. She and Anders can be together forever and watch over people in a "Baltar/Caprica" way if you want to consider that possibility

On Saturday, March 21st 2009 10:20 pm, avstars wrote:
The only question that still nags me is how is Kara "the hypenger of death"? She looks like an angel to me.


Kara was the harbinger of death to both The Cylons and the colonials way of life, as they abandoned it when they arrived on Earth.
avstars

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Message Posted On Thursday, February 11th 2010 at 11:39 pm
The Starbuck story line was a bit of a question mark. But when all said and done, the finale was all about characters, which is what the show is about and the finale brought closure to all the characters.

Will miss this show.

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