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drey8

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didn't any one notice that Peter was saved by an observer and if there are no more observers, he should have died as a child. that is kind of a major error. I really like fringe but does kinds of mistakes are hard to forgive.
Message Posted On Saturday, January 19th 2013 at 11:44 am
balzak

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If I remember correctly, the probe they sent through the singularity was at the precise angle (using the massive magnet) so that it would travel to the past at the moment of the invasion, allowing original 12 observers and all preceding events remaining unchanged, then showing the 'corrected' version of the flashbacks to the park scene and giving a happily ever after with no need for narration.
Besides, if all observers were stopped including the 12, Walternate wouldn't have been distracted by the observer when he found the cure and would have cured Peter himself. While this would have saved Peter, he and Olivia would be in different realities and wouldn't have had their daughter Etta, as shown in final scene.
Message Posted On Saturday, January 19th 2013 at 10:57 pm
Gadfly
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It's a timey-wimey kind of thing.

The probe didn't travel to 2015, it travel to 2167 when the Oslo scientist created the first Observer.

But if Walter eliminated the Observers, then September wouldn't have existed as they knew him. So he couldn't have come back. So he couldn't have become Donald. So he couldn't have helped Walter build the wormhole generator. So they couldn't have stopped the emotionless "evil" Observers from existing.

There are two possible solutions:

1) Walter sent (or left a message to send) a more emotional Observer back to save Peter, maintaining temporal continuity.

2) As Walter kind of said, he only existed as a paradox from 2015 on. Everything before then was unchanged as far as his personal timeline was concerned.
Message Posted On Sunday, January 20th 2013 at 5:35 am
drey8

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Time was supposed to reset... no more observers. never existed. There is no paradox. I was kind of disappointed with the logic flaw. but I am over. I liked the series up to the last episode. So very few series have a satisfactory ending anyway, I was not expecting much.
Message Posted On Sunday, January 20th 2013 at 3:51 pm
Gadfly
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No, there weren't supposed to be any more emotionless Observers, the ones who staged the invasion. Whether something else was created instead was never suggested or denied. Nor is there any reason that Walter couldn't have set someone back to make sure the original timeline up to 2015 stayed the same. Since he had the ability to create a wormhole device.

Plus time couldn't "reset" in any case because there was no original timeline where the Observers didn't exist. They could alter history, but they couldn't reset it.
Message Posted On Sunday, January 20th 2013 at 5:19 pm
TheCatsMother

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My head hurts! LOL - Overthinking it guys!
Walter did say that him and the boy could show the scientist in 2167 that they didn't have to purge all emotions, so maybe that's why the original 12 gained emotions over time being in the past?? And that's why Sepetember/Donald saved Walter/Peter at Ryden Lake. That's my theory and I like it - Simples!

Hey at least Olivia didn't wake up in the shower and it had all been a dream, or they weren't all already dead all along! Pfft!

Must say I am going to miss this show, even if it's just for the "random walter moments"
Message Posted On Monday, January 21st 2013 at 6:24 am

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