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  Cokebeard
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i'm still digging this. some are giving it a hard time. so be it. that's your call.

anywho, it was a pretty good episode. while i like that mr. franklin is up to something,... something big, did anyone else kinda blink that they had the new black guy in the community the one up to somthing? maybe it's nothing. maybe it's illegal. i don't know.

while nothing really big happened, the episode pushed the story along nicely with some twists and turns. like the death in the mine.

now my problem. yet again in an episode they have something completely off the wall. the kid, Dale, goes out on his own and finds the train? on foot i mind you. i have a problem with that. it was a nice sentiment, but completely hard to believe. but not enough to deter me from changing the channel.

i'll keep watching.
Message Posted On Wednesday, October 4th 2006  At 9:35 pm

  guytwo

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I'll have to admit that I'm still watching also but I really don't think this is a good show. Maybe just my practicality kicking in but if I were to be buried alive in a mine I'd ask for some shovels (at least) just in case. The food train was a little hooky and why was the train just stopped there? If the engineer has died the train may still be moving and then crashes. That has happened in real life. Did the engineer have time to stop the train? The kid was the only one to think to look for the food train??? And even trains don't carry products like they used to. An 18 wheeler would have been more likely. To many little things bother me, my suspension of disbelief is stretched to thin for a show thats based on possible reality. The first order of the day would be to accumulate food and weapons. At this point who cares what else is going on "outside" especially when you can pick up a tv station at least sometimes.

But, again, I admit I'm still watching, but only because I like Cokebeard. lol
Message Posted On Wednesday, October 4th 2006  At 10:47 pm

  Dominus

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I love the show and now that I’m back on the site, I give you my word that I’ll make a comment in each episode discussion.

On Wednesday, October 4th 2006 10:47 pm, guytwo wrote:
I'll have to admit that I'm still watching also but I really don't think this is a good show. Maybe just my practicality kicking in but if I were to be buried alive in a mine I'd ask for some shovels (at least) just in case. The food train was a little hooky and why was the train just stopped there? If the engineer has died the train may still be moving and then crashes. That has happened in real life. Did the engineer have time to stop the train? The kid was the only one to think to look for the food train??? And even trains don't carry products like they used to. An 18 wheeler would have been more likely. To many little things bother me, my suspension of disbelief is stretched to thin for a show thats based on possible reality. The first order of the day would be to accumulate food and weapons. At this point who cares what else is going on "outside" especially when you can pick up a tv station at least sometimes.

But, again, I admit I'm still watching, but only because I like Cokebeard. lol

Jericho is a small town and I believe that’s why the food train made sense, though you got to think that the kid is really loyal to that shopkeeper lady, so he may have walked for hours to get to the train, for all we know.

What I want to know is, what is Mr. Hawkins up to? He definitely isn’t a cop from St. Louis, though what was he sealing up inside of his house? How does he know so much about things that average policemen wouldn’t, even if he claimed to be taken up to speed after Sept. 11th?

Anyway, the cable channel they were receiving only came in sometime, and it was in a language I don’t believe any in the town could interpret. That’s why they had no choice but to send people out in order to get information, so I don’t believe it broke the “suspension of disbelief” for them to go out and do that.

Anyway, everything I’m curious about is with Mr. Hawkins. Guy sneaks into the city in a hazmat suit, when everyone else is indoors, and he gets that barrel/tub out of a private storage unit.

I’m guessing that he’s either a federal agent, or an inside-man for whoever launched the attacks.
Message Posted On Thursday, October 5th 2006  At 12:20 am

  Alienmojo

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My first impression of Mr. Hawkins was that he worked for the government and was placed in Jericho because the government had advanced warning of this attack.

After tonight's episode I am beginning to wonder. He is storing weapons and is bricking up what I believe to be another thermo-nuclear device in his home. Yes, that container contains a bomb.

As to the explosions themselves I believe that terrorists hit prime cities. Anything other than that and it would have had to be a full scale war and there were too little explosions. Also, at least one country (China?) is broadcasting news...something it wouldn't be doing in a full-scale war.

Just some ideas.. have to see if they pan out.
Message Posted On Thursday, October 5th 2006  At 2:42 am

  guytwo

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A lot of questions to be answered, I guess thats why I still watch - curiosity. Also it's intriguing to wonder just what would I (and my neighbors) do in such an event.

Food would be a major concern, probably the main one. How many of us would be starving if we couldn't go to the grocery store every week or so. Most of us would be totally out of food in 2 or 3 weeks. Disruption of the food supply would kill everyone in a month or so.

Maybe I like this show better than I want to admit.
Message Posted On Thursday, October 5th 2006  At 7:07 am

  logo29a
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I disagree with alienmojo. There were nuclear explosions in every single major city in the US. No terrorist organization would be able acquire that much nuclear material. It has to be either China or N. Korea. Why else would they be receiving broadcasts in Manderin Chinese?
Message Posted On Thursday, October 5th 2006  At 10:08 am

  Ddraig
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Howdy,

My first post here and I really enjoy this TV show although there are some glaring inaccuracies that are irritating me. However if you're a casual observer you wouldn't notice, but one example is that plastic sheeting doesn't protect you against radiation. Now they are probably in an area that wouldn't matter too much but it’s hard to say without more episodes for analysis.

Anyway back to what I was going to discuss. Mr. Franklin yes I kind of had a strange suspicion in the second episode when he kept the information about the cities that had been attacked quiet. Although I am not quite ready to give up the idea that he used to be a Police officer in New York. He has been too helpful and knowledgeable about what is going on. One could argue that is part of the cover, but it is also possible that he has been studying or knowing this has been coming and has been preparing for it. (Which is why you see the storage unit).

I would suggest that he is a police officer, but something in his past happened to make him take a different path than most people. Perhaps he was involved in 9/11 or something like that. Most people don't give a thought to preparedness or having emergency kits or supplies beyond the small first aid kit. The actions that I see him taking are the same actions that I have taken to an extent. The thing that he was building in is basement it is possible that barrel is either water, food or both. I am thinking that he is building a small shelter in his basement and that barrel meets a specific need. If you recall from the second episode he is putting the blocks up a few feet in front of the wall where the door to the second room was. The room where he pulled out the map and put the pins in it. The reason he is being so secretive about it is because he knows what a riot type situation is (example 1st episode where he tries to offer help) and there for he is keeping his "stash" of supplies quiet. Some people can get rather nasty when they realize someone else has something they want especially if they're trying to survive. Which also lends to the argument to the need for the weapons.

Thanks,
Ddraig.
Message Posted On Thursday, October 5th 2006  At 11:57 am

  Cokebeard
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he was a cop in St. Louis, or so he says anyway. i don't think that he was blocking up food. too hard to get to. you could hide that stuff without having to make a fake stone block wall. he hiding something bad. something he surely doesn't want anyone to know about.
Message Posted On Thursday, October 5th 2006  At 3:41 pm

  Hysteria

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I think it was an alright episode. A little slow for my taste, but still good. Next week's installment looks pretty exciting.
Message Posted On Thursday, October 5th 2006  At 7:42 pm

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To answer Logo29a:

- why bother smugling nuclear weapons insde USA when almost all the major city have a nuclear plant or a missile base to mess with?

If an organization will be devious enought to mount a continental scale strike counting more than 14 blasts, you can be sure of 1 thing: they cant be traced because they are the ones controlling or guarding the crap.

The more i watch this serie the more i have this feeling that it is a right-wing group inflitrated inside of the US army that triggered the blasts,

And for those who will say: only the President can order a nuclear strike ... if they is a lock, there is a key, and if you manage to acquire a tomawack N, there is surely someone who will find a way to bypass the security and manually trigger the launch. After all, army ppl built those, so who better to reverse eng them?

Message Posted On Friday, October 6th 2006  At 6:31 am

  Ddraig
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Doh, it lost my second post

I don't think he is actually bricking up that whole area of the basement. I think he is bricking up the backroom so that he has some type of bunker or something similar to that. You can watch the episodes on the Jericho website again to take a look, but either way we will eventually find out and this is a really good show.

PS: Is there any way to get these forums to email you when you have a reply message?
Message Posted On Tuesday, October 10th 2006  At 12:53 pm

  Cokebeard
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On Tuesday, October 10th 2006 12:53 pm, Ddraig wrote:
Doh, it lost my second post

I don't think he is actually bricking up that whole area of the basement. I think he is bricking up the backroom so that he has some type of bunker or something similar to that. You can watch the episodes on the Jericho website again to take a look, but either way we will eventually find out and this is a really good show.

PS: Is there any way to get these forums to email you when you have a reply message?

sorry, this site does not have such a function.
Message Posted On Tuesday, October 10th 2006  At 3:19 pm

  Gargoyle
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The food train was a little hooky and why was the train just stopped there?

Obvously the train struck another vehicle. The conductor would have to stop the train (protocol), and if the radios were no longer working to call the rail authorities, then they would be forced to leave on foot to report the accident and get help (assuming there was more than one crew). The train obviously did not have time to stop (as per the new hood ornament). I don't think the kid was specifically looking for the train. I think he was walking the tracks because it was the shortest route to where he was going and also has bridges which indicates that Jericho is bordered by a water tributary (a natural geographic obstacle). Considering that most of the population is presumably dead (including food distribution warehouses), I doubt too many folks would be scouring the tracks for the train, especially since they wouldn't know where it was when it stopped. Also, it costs about the same to ship something by train as by truck, unless there are road bans for overweight vehicles whereby they need permits (driving trucking costs up, in a town with a mine, and thus, perfectly good railhead to load/unload goods).
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