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Faris
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Ok, last chance, this is big, big news.

This is pure speculation, but from the looks of it (http://www.stargate-project.de/stargate/index.php?seite=episodenguide&aktion=showfolge&ID=205), it seems that the reason the Sangraal was a hologram on the planet is because there is NO anti Ori weapon! It seems that there is yet another repository of the Ancients and Daniel looks into it and apparently, learns how to build it. I could be wrong though.

Anyone have any theories on this?

Faris,

Message Posted On Saturday, September 30th 2006 At 8:43 pm

FuManchu

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I have always wondered if an Ancient actually would create an anti-Ancient weapon, even if it might be focused only on the Ori. All I can say is I believe the PTB will wrap up the series very well, and leave an opening for future stuff (movies, episodes, etc.). JMHO.

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Well, Morgan did try to say that there is something wrong with the weapon.

Message Posted On Sunday, October 1st 2006 At 4:02 am

Faris
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Well, it's either that or Merlin did build it, because didn't his notes say he built it then moved it to Camelot? Maybe he did but Morgan destroyed it but left the info on how to build another one, but here's a better question, will they have the materials needed to build it?

And how will they get it to the Ori galaxy? Because if they activate it in the Milky Way, they'd kill the Ancients then the Ori would move in directly and destroy the weapon. The supergate is not an option because it's permanently blocked at both ends.

Personally, I never thought they'd go the route of destroying ascended beings, I always thought they'd just fight the Ori off back to their galaxy and make them quit somehow, also, whatever happened to the anti prior weapon that they used in "Fourth Horseman"?

Faris,

Message Posted On Sunday, October 1st 2006 At 8:29 pm

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Not to be rude here, but what problem would there be killing the ascended Ancients AND the Ori? What value have the ascended Ancients added? Okay, Daniel may be at risk, but who gives a damn if unhelpful hands-off beings are erased?

Just got to ask.

Message Posted On Sunday, October 1st 2006 At 9:09 pm

Faris
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Well, I don't care either, but what if there are other, worse Ori-like ascended beings or something worse that they are also shielding us from? The Ori didn't even know there was life outside of their galaxy it seems.

Here's the way I see it, the Ancients are protecting us, if they are gone, the Ori will move in, who knows if even all of them would come meaning we'd just be killing some of them so we'd have to find a way to send it to their galaxy either way.

Faris,

Message Posted On Sunday, October 1st 2006 At 10:28 pm

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Well, as they said on the show the weapon doesnt kill ascended beings it merely sort of blocks them, so they can activate it here (blocking the ancients for a whlie) then send it to the Ori galaxy (blocking the Ori), thus the Ori wont be able to make a move against the weapon while the ancients are "blocked", because they'll be blocked, too.
The question is where are they going to put the weapon in the Ori galaxy, i mean there are hundreds of followers there, who will try to find and destroy that weapon...

Message Posted On Monday, October 2nd 2006 At 5:18 am

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That's complicated, but I thought that the weapon is a one time device, it blocks them permantently, as in the 2 waves canceling eachother out, meaning the weapon will be activated then they're gone, I mean, the weapon is handheld, there's no way it would have power to operate for long so it must be activate, they're gone then shut off. Personally, I think all the Ancients should descend and give their knowledge to Earth/build more drones and such and put their knowledge to good use instead of lording it over and claiming to be superior beings.

Well, I imagine out in space in the Ori galaxy would do just fine where none of those peasants could find it. There must be more to it than just getting rid of the Ori, maybe the priors will loose their powers and the ships would shut down as well, it just doesn't make sense, if the Ori are gone and nothing else happens, we'll still loose as there are 3 Ori ships still out there and at least 6 still in the Ori galaxy (In "Crusade" Tomin said there were 10 priors coming and each ship has 1 prior).

Faris,

Message Posted On Monday, October 2nd 2006 At 8:45 pm

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Ok, this is BIG, BIG spoilers and also explains why Daniel did it in "The Shroud":

We see that the Sangraal is not real, they get past the dragon and find Merlin/Morgans lab. The reason I say MORGAN is because I believe that Merlin convinced Morgan to help him, he knew that hecould not make the Sangraal, the knowledge he needed was only available on the ascended plane. But he still worked on the device to distract the other Ancients while Morgan devised a plan to make the device. Knowing that she herself could not interact with the mortals (merlin) or interfere, she made an ancient repository with the knowledge needed to defeat the Ori. But the actual device is not something you make, it is you. You are the weapon, and to defeat the Ori, you must become the Ori. First you must become a Prior, and then ascend to the Ori level, where the information (virus) downloaded into your head will be broadcasted throughout the Ori plane. This causes the Ori to cease to exist as well as you. I believe that this will also effect the Ancients/other ascended beings, as they will lose their (and subsiquent other ascended beings) ability to ascend to the next plane. Those that wish to help us in disposing of the Ori can descend and help.

I can't believe that is it, I never would have guessed that! While I can't confirm this is 100% correct as I got it from www.scifi.com's message board it sounds right to me.

Faris,

Message Posted On Tuesday, October 3rd 2006 At 9:30 pm

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Well, that sounds plausible, but i dont think that the writers will write off the ascended and ascension...

Message Posted On Wednesday, October 4th 2006 At 12:29 am

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On Sunday, October 1st 2006 8:29 pm, Faris wrote:

And how will they get it to the Ori galaxy? Because if they activate it in the Milky Way, they'd kill the Ancients then the Ori would move in directly and destroy the weapon. The supergate is not an option because it's permanently blocked at both ends.

OK, here's something I never understood. How can any ascended beings be on any galaxy? Isn't the whole point of ascension to transcend space and time as we know them? How can they be on some higher plane of existence, and still tied to the physical world? For that matter, given the vastness of the universe, why do they stick together in the same galaxy?

Message Posted On Wednesday, January 23rd 2008 At 11:10 am