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Pentar
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Message Posted On Friday, August 10th 2012 at 9:22 pm
Episode discussion for: 02x08 | Rewind (Aug 09, 2012)

This show gets better and better, putting a lot of the broadcast network dramas to shame.
zwixxx

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Message Posted On Saturday, August 11th 2012 at 1:02 am
ITwo weeks ago I would have strongly agreed with you. Then came the ep where we found out the lawyer had got a girl drunk, stripped her naked and displayed her in public - just to humiliate her in front of a potential employer because they were both after the same high-profile job. And to then hear the lawyer was unrepentant and would "do it again", well that was just the icing on the cake. It's hard now to warm to such a character.

I'm fine with watching characters who are ruthless, being underhand, being mean even... but this is just wrong and icky.

tinalessia

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Message Posted On Sunday, August 12th 2012 at 11:46 pm
I agree with Pentar, it does get better. When it first came out I thought, Oh another legal drama, but this is good. Re: the prank.... We're talking about hazing and college, this kind of stuff happens all the time, which no, it doesn't make it right at all. Jessica's character is powerful and strong and I'm wondering if this "prank" had been done by a male, for the same reasons, would you be a tiny bit more accepting ? Not judging, just asking. Seems to me we've heard of these kinds of back stabbing stunts throughout TV history by men and we don't blink. So maybe it's a double standard. I like that they are showing facets of her and making us realize cut throat behavior comes in all shapes, sizes and sexes!
zwixxx

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Message Posted On Monday, August 13th 2012 at 12:37 am
On Sunday, August 12th 2012 11:46 pm, tinalessia wrote:
I Re: the prank.... We're talking about hazing and college, this kind of stuff happens all the time, which no, it doesn't make it right at all. Jessica's character is powerful and strong and I'm wondering if this "prank" had been done by a male, for the same reasons, would you be a tiny bit more accepting ? Not judging, just asking. Seems to me we've heard of these kinds of back stabbing stunts throughout TV history by men and we don't blink. So maybe it's a double standard. I like that they are showing facets of her and making us realize cut throat behavior comes in all shapes, sizes and sexes!


Methinks if it had been done by a Man to the Woman then there would have been cops called and legal proceedings to follow, him being charged with "a crime with a sexual element to it" because, iiuc, it's kinda hard (almost impossible even) to strip someone without copping/coping(?) a feel along the way.

But because it was Female on Female then there doesn't seem to be any consequences.

So if Guy on Girl is , and equality between the sexes is what we're striving for, surely Girl on Girl should be seen as equally

Though maybe if it'd been Man on Man then it wouldn't have bothered me so much - me thinking that the guy was stupid to let himself get drunk and helpless - so I guess I have this big case of sexistpigginess - although I'm kinda sure that a naked unconscious girl runs a higher risk of something icky happening to her than a naked unconscious guy.

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As for the show (apart from this) I'm loving it, especially how, unlike other lawyer shows, we're not shown the two sides (prosecuters and defendors) having drinks afterwards which always seems weird to me - like having a knife fight with someone, stabbing them in the chest, then buying them cocoa.
tinalessia

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Message Posted On Wednesday, August 15th 2012 at 12:32 am
sorry if i wasn't clear.. I simply meant that if a guy had done this to another guy ( which we've seen more than enough) then it wouldn't have made such a ruckus since we're accustomed to that. Because it was done by a woman to another woman it does feel a little icky but I'm still glad the network went with it to show a little equality.
zwixxx

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Message Posted On Wednesday, August 15th 2012 at 3:39 am
On Wednesday, August 15th 2012 12:32 am, tinalessia wrote:
sorry if i wasn't clear.. I simply meant that if a guy had done this to another guy ( which we've seen more than enough) then it wouldn't have made such a ruckus since we're accustomed to that. Because it was done by a woman to another woman it does feel a little icky but I'm still glad the network went with it to show a little equality.


guy on guy <- oh I get ya now.

(strokes chin and thinks for a bit)..................this equality stuff is hard -> iiuc if we're to have equality between the sexes then in should be equaliy bad or equally "an acceptable employment technique which though overline isn't any kind of sexual assault" what ever the MM/MF/FM/FF combination, right ?! And if one combination feels icky while another doesn't, that makes me wrong, right ?! Or if I say that each combination should be seen as equally icky then am I being blind to the reality that one has 'obvious' overtones of a sick perverted nature ?! My brain hurts

Methinks I'm gonna stop thinking about these past happenings and look forward to enjoying whatever strings he has to pull in order to get his lady assistant (I should REALLY know her name) back to where she belongs.

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