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Episode Discussion: 02x11 :: Self Made Man, Aired: December 01, 2008

 
  Cokebeard
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alright, i was only like eight minutes in when i had a problem. i thought only organic materials could time travel?
Message Posted On Monday, January 14th 2008  At 7:24 pm

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Here's a couple of other things:

1) It's kind of a problem I've been thinking about since I first heard about the show's inception. It's the whole issue of Cameron regrowing her flesh. Can she? Her superficial scars from the pilot seemed to have already healed by the last scene. And if she can indeed have healing scars, then what happens if she gets a good chunck of flesh torn off to expose her rebotic innards? The part of her mission to remain incognito will be lost at some point, and seems all the more likely to happen when you consider the fact that she's going to get the crap beaten out of her every week. Maybe it's because I'm not fully aborbed into the mythology, but there just seems something amiss about the whole "living tissue" aspect that's just troubling me.

2) If Sarah and John were transported to the future, are there two Johns now? Cameron tells Sarah that she originally died in 2004, so there seems to be a timeline that's getting screwed here. Or is it just a time travel paradox that I still can't get my head around?

3) Not really a plot-related nitpick, but the scene where Cameron shoots Enrique is kind of beaten off the dramatic path by the fact that she's still dressed up like a hootchie. I just couldn't take it entirely serious.

Two episodes in already, and I am still not fully absorbed. I actually found the sub-plot involving the original Terminator from the pilot on an apparent path to rebuild himself more intriguing than the rest of the story. I'm not really a Terminator fan, so Glau is my only reason to keep coming back to this. I really hope this picks up steam soon.
Message Posted On Monday, January 14th 2008  At 8:38 pm

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Yeah i don't know about the metalic skull being teleported doesn't make sence.... unless it was just left behind or maybe there was a little flesh left on it? Its an enjoyable series non the less if you just ignore little things.
Message Posted On Monday, January 14th 2008  At 9:24 pm

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Still on my "maybe" list, I'll give it at least one more chance. I'm sure not hooked yet.
Message Posted On Monday, January 14th 2008  At 9:50 pm

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Warning !Warning !Warning !
Message Posted On Monday, January 14th 2008  At 10:03 pm

  PureMaria

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I may be alone in this, but I thought this episode was great. I try not to dwell on the flaws and errors in the show. It makes everything so much more interesting. I may be alone in this, but I thought this episode was great. I try not to dwell on the flaws and errors in the show. It makes everything so much more interesting.
Message Posted On Tuesday, January 15th 2008  At 2:37 pm

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On Monday, January 14th 2008 10:03 pm, guytwo wrote:
Warning !Warning !Warning !

I think think this is wicked cool.
Message Posted On Tuesday, January 15th 2008  At 7:35 pm

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Come on, Bra'tac can't be dead.
Message Posted On Tuesday, January 15th 2008  At 8:41 pm

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On Tuesday, January 15th 2008 7:35 pm, nishikaze wrote:
On Monday, January 14th 2008 10:03 pm, guytwo wrote:
Warning !Warning !Warning !

I think think this is wicked cool.

Yeah but don't let them near the kids.
Message Posted On Wednesday, January 16th 2008  At 7:55 am

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On Tuesday, January 15th 2008 2:37 pm, PureMaria wrote:
I may be alone in this, but I thought this episode was great. I try not to dwell on the flaws and errors in the show. It makes everything so much more interesting. I may be alone in this, but I thought this episode was great. I try not to dwell on the flaws and errors in the show. It makes everything so much more interesting.

samehere.
Message Posted On Wednesday, January 16th 2008  At 9:27 pm

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On Tuesday, January 15th 2008 2:37 pm, PureMaria wrote:
I may be alone in this, but I thought this episode was great. I try not to dwell on the flaws and errors in the show. It makes everything so much more interesting. I may be alone in this, but I thought this episode was great. I try not to dwell on the flaws and errors in the show. It makes everything so much more interesting.


I'd second that. It's entertaining if you don't overthink everything that happens. At times it was very unbelievable, sure, but the acting once again was stellar and the writing is fairly decent. Still better than most everything else on right now.

On Monday, January 14th 2008 10:03 pm, guytwo wrote:
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Bitchin'. I'll take two.
Message Posted On Thursday, January 17th 2008  At 8:03 am

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On Monday, January 14th 2008 8:38 pm, Morning_Star wrote:
Here's a couple of other things:

1) It's kind of a problem I've been thinking about since I first heard about the show's inception. It's the whole issue of Cameron regrowing her flesh. Can she? Her superficial scars from the pilot seemed to have already healed by the last scene. And if she can indeed have healing scars, then what happens if she gets a good chunck of flesh torn off to expose her rebotic innards? The part of her mission to remain incognito will be lost at some point, and seems all the more likely to happen when you consider the fact that she's going to get the crap beaten out of her every week. Maybe it's because I'm not fully aborbed into the mythology, but there just seems something amiss about the whole "living tissue" aspect that's just troubling me.

2) If Sarah and John were transported to the future, are there two Johns now? Cameron tells Sarah that she originally died in 2004, so there seems to be a timeline that's getting screwed here. Or is it just a time travel paradox that I still can't get my head around?

3) Not really a plot-related nitpick, but the scene where Cameron shoots Enrique is kind of beaten off the dramatic path by the fact that she's still dressed up like a hootchie. I just couldn't take it entirely serious.

Two episodes in already, and I am still not fully absorbed. I actually found the sub-plot involving the original Terminator from the pilot on an apparent path to rebuild himself more intriguing than the rest of the story. I'm not really a Terminator fan, so Glau is my only reason to keep coming back to this. I really hope this picks up steam soon.


It depends on how you look it on a couple of shows and movies (Back to the Future) traveling back to the future would results in two characters. However, wouldn't traveling back to the past mean the same thing? Then again if in the future Sarah dies or John dies, then travelling to the future (while they are in the present or past) should only result in there being only one copy. Terminators regrowing their fresh I'am not sure about it. Is it even talked about in the movies? Arnold's Terminator got torn apart to pieces but obviously as he referred himself in T2 and T3 he was an older model so if Cameron is a newer model maybe she has those capabilities.

I thought the scene with Enrique was good but what I couldn't believe is that she would take big of a slap from Sarah. I know Terminators are supposed to protect their subjects but I would think even the "good" Terminators would have a breaking point.
Message Posted On Saturday, January 19th 2008  At 1:29 pm

 
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