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helpmegetpissed

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Message Posted On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 at 10:36 pm
On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 10:08 pm, nishikaze wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 8:41 pm, helpmegetpissed wrote:
Darksied isnt very intellegent....for the most part if you played to his greed then you good,...Brainiac is just computer..so am pretty sure he would of made some type of detail with him ..Also you have to reambver at the end of the 2 season his android was mixed with magic so it would of stand a better chances then anything lex can build to stand up agaisnt superman....
Also like we said..Lex allways used the cheap ways out...If lex and david was switched..He woudl of just smashed the clan while they was in stoner form.

Dardseid rules a Planet. And Darkseid manipulated Luthor into reviving him.

Umm... Yeah. The path of least Resistance. It doesn't always have to be complicated you know. And Lex would not have even bothered with the Gargoyles. Why should he? Unless they are useful to him, which, quite frankly ummm no. If he found them useful he would have let them revive, waited until they were stone again and then imprison them until they revived again and experimented on them for his own ends. That's the type of guy Lex is.

And Brainiac isn't just a computer. He is an AI with the knowledge of countless worlds. Brainiac has the capacity to self perpetuate. How many times have people tried to destroy him and he keeps coming back?

To get a real idea about just how good Lex is read the book (hard cover graphic novel) Supergirl. There were others from the same storyline but I can't remember them right now and I'm not at home.
darksiad rules a planet that is afride of him..Its not hard to conrtal people when there is fear in it...(even tho i JLU they should the people on his planets respect him as agod..The fear i stil there.)
Also The clan would have possed some threat to him.For the fact that if they did pose a threat to the city.They can allways band together with there allias to help them...In the latter story arch there would of introuduce these thing call spacepawn.. that actlike brainiace and darksied..but the story was ended way before they got to the point...Alsobrainiac is jsut an advance computer..and that a bout it...

Also about the mastermind body vs mental you have to have both to beable to do what they did...If they didnt have the whole packege someone would of steamroll them along time ago....
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Message Posted On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 at 10:55 pm
Saying Brainiac is just a computer is the understatement of the year. You really don't read Superman/ DC at all do you? And Darkseid is a God. Of course people fear him. And Luthor outsmarted a God.

And again I refer you to Prof X: Would you take him on? He's in a wheelchair and not one of these vaunted 'Masterminds' would even stand a chance against him.

Anyway since you really seem incapable at this time to understanding just what makes a Mastermind (you didn't even bother to define it). I'm going to stop. I suggest you bone up on other series before you argue against them. It seems the only series you watch/ read is Gargoyles and this thread is only to pump Xanatos, not a genuine discussion of what makes a great Mastermind.

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Message Posted On Thursday, September 28th 2006 at 6:39 am
On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 10:55 pm, nishikaze wrote:
Saying Brainiac is just a computer is the understatement of the year. You really don't read Superman/ DC at all do you? And Darkseid is a God. Of course people fear him. And Luthor outsmarted a God.

And again I refer you to Prof X: Would you take him on? He's in a wheelchair and not one of these vaunted 'Masterminds' would even stand a chance against him.

Anyway since you really seem incapable at this time to understanding just what makes a Mastermind (you didn't even bother to define it). I'm going to stop. I suggest you bone up on other series before you argue against them. It seems the only series you watch/ read is Gargoyles and this thread is only to pump Xanatos, not a genuine discussion of what makes a great Mastermind.


Yes but like i said if you play to darksied ego then its nto hatrd to trick him.Darksied thinks he is better then anyone els..And he doesnt belive that anyone is as smart as he is..Which would lead people to easly outsmart him..profX is a moot point.due to the fact that he is a mutant.We not talking about people with superpowers....Hoesntly i would think both david and kingpin would be able to outsmart him giving the opprotunatity....Both of them have outsmarted there fare amount of enimes...
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Message Posted On Thursday, September 28th 2006 at 8:23 am
On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 8:01 pm, nishikaze wrote:
Unofficial. And Crap. Whoever wrote that was a simpleton with no knowledge of the character and most likely a predisposition towards Marvel vs. DC. Never use a crossover like that as an 'official' source. There is always an unrealistic bias.

King Pin wouldn't stand a chance against Batman. And you don't think using diplomatic immunity isn't intelligent? Umm... ^o)
Why do you assume that just because it's a crossover that it's unofficial? The writer of the issue was J. M. DeMatteis. As a comic book buff, you should know who he his, and he's anything but a simpleton. He's been writing comics since the '70s, and has written for both DC and Marvel. He's also written episodes of Justice League Unlimited. Obviously, you should get the facts before you post.

No, I don't find diplomatic immunity intelligent. It requires no strong effort to accomplish your goals. Sure, he's puting effort towards it, though he doesn't make risks like Lex and Xanatos do. To me, is shows that he's not as confident that his plan will succeed as Lex and Xanatos. Also, to be frank, he's just a DC knock off of Dr. Doom, who's the king of Latveria, so he has diplomatic immunity as well. However, he was the first to do it, over ten years before Ra's Al Ghoul's creation.
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Message Posted On Thursday, September 28th 2006 at 8:43 am
On Thursday, September 28th 2006 8:23 am, Systemax wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 8:01 pm, nishikaze wrote:
Unofficial. And Crap. Whoever wrote that was a simpleton with no knowledge of the character and most likely a predisposition towards Marvel vs. DC. Never use a crossover like that as an 'official' source. There is always an unrealistic bias.

King Pin wouldn't stand a chance against Batman. And you don't think using diplomatic immunity isn't intelligent? Umm... ^o)
Why do you assume that just because it's a crossover that it's unofficial? The writer of the issue was J. M. DeMatteis. As a comic book buff, you should know who he his, and he's anything but a simpleton. He's been writing comics since the '70s, and has written for both DC and Marvel. He's also written episodes of Justice League Unlimited. Obviously, you should get the facts before you post.

No, I don't find diplomatic immunity intelligent. It requires no strong effort to accomplish your goals. Sure, he's puting effort towards it, though he doesn't make risks like Lex and Xanatos do. To me, is shows that he's not as confident that his plan will succeed as Lex and Xanatos. Also, to be frank, he's just a DC knock off of Dr. Doom, who's the king of Latveria, so he has diplomatic immunity as well. However, he was the first to do it, over ten years before Ra's Al Ghoul's creation.

Well you cant say that ra's is a rip off of doom..They both wants differnt things...It would be like saying that david is a ripoff of lex just because lex was made first....

But yea being a diplomat isnt that big of a deal....if ireamber right...Drew barrymore or one of those actors is a diplomat....S othat prove its not a big deal...
Also its nothing that ether david or king pin cant do .....They jsut need to get a diplomat to drop out or be killed off..So yea.. its not that big of a deal...

Oh yea speaking about god and stuff...What do you think would of happen if lex had the chance to get a wish granted from puck? Am pretty sure his shortsieghtiveness would of screwed him over...

Also the cross overs does count as a contunitive univers....
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