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MoggIntellect

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Message Posted On Friday, May 12th 2006 at 2:27 am
Right now all shows are divided into 'seasons', however, especially with many Britcoms, they don't put out one series each year, and so in the Britcom world, we usually say 'Series'. It would be nice in the editor's options to use 'season' or 'series' (set to season as a default if you wish).
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Message Posted On Friday, May 12th 2006 at 4:59 am
Are you saying that they put out less than one series per year or more than one series per year?
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Message Posted On Friday, May 12th 2006 at 5:10 am
On Friday, May 12th 2006 4:59 am, MacDeacon wrote:
Are you saying that they put out less than one series per year or more than one series per year?


Less. Sometimes there are several years between each series. For example, one show, Spaced, had series one in 1999, series two in 2001, and series three is said to be in the works, and here we are 5 years later still waiting. Furthermore, a Britcom series is generally 6 episodes (some 7 or , and really don't warrant the term 'season'.
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Message Posted On Friday, May 12th 2006 at 8:52 am
On Friday, May 12th 2006 5:10 am, MoggIntellect wrote:
On Friday, May 12th 2006 4:59 am, MacDeacon wrote:
Are you saying that they put out less than one series per year or more than one series per year?


Less. Sometimes there are several years between each series. For example, one show, Spaced, had series one in 1999, series two in 2001, and series three is said to be in the works, and here we are 5 years later still waiting. Furthermore, a Britcom series is generally 6 episodes (some 7 or , and really don't warrant the term 'season'.


'ow many seasons/series would the original Dr. Who warrant in that case?
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Message Posted On Friday, May 12th 2006 at 8:59 am
On Friday, May 12th 2006 8:52 am, MacDeacon wrote:
'ow many seasons/series would the original Dr. Who warrant in that case?


I don't know that show very well, but perhaps Matthew could answer that question. I believe he's the editor.

I don't think the number of series/seasons wouldn't change. My big problem is that 'season', for most of the shows I edit, is a complete misnomer.
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Message Posted On Friday, May 12th 2006 at 9:24 am
On Friday, May 12th 2006 8:59 am, MoggIntellect wrote:
On Friday, May 12th 2006 8:52 am, MacDeacon wrote:
'ow many seasons/series would the original Dr. Who warrant in that case?


I don't know that show very well, but perhaps Matthew could answer that question. I believe he's the editor.

I don't think the number of series/seasons wouldn't change. My big problem is that 'season', for most of the shows I edit, is a complete misnomer.


There is a season to every purpose under heaven...^o^

Seasons don't necessarily indicate a yearly occurence.

To me, "series" is a complete misnomer for those groupings because each show comprises a series of episodes bound together by the Show's name.

But have a toggle option to call the same thing something different upon the Editor's preference... or perhaps having "series" automatically input when the show is British (or Australian? Canadian?) might be a good thing.
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Message Posted On Friday, May 12th 2006 at 9:29 am
Doctor Who (not Dr. ^o)) would still have the same number of series because each serial from each series continued on from the previous serial.

I agree with Michael though, in the UK the word season isn't used in regard to TV shows. Each TV series is divided up into series, some shows like Doctor Who have serials within the individual series, and sometimes, such as is the case of series 23, the series is in fact one big serial, which is then divided up into seperate serials. So episode 648 is an episode of a serial of a serial of a series of a series. Which can get quite confusing. But I digress, I think it would be nice if the option was available.

Also a question: for American shows it is compulsory to use American spelling, but is it compulsory to use British spelling for British shows, because if not, it really should be.
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Message Posted On Friday, May 12th 2006 at 10:27 am
On Friday, May 12th 2006 9:29 am, bobpage87 wrote:
Also a question: for American shows it is compulsory to use American spelling, but is it compulsory to use British spelling for British shows, because if not, it really should be.


That's the prevailing idea/plan, but in my arrogant opinion, correct with either spelling is still correct. I think grammatical errors are far more important than changing 'colour' to 'color' or vice versa. ^o) Then you have Canadian spelling which is not exactly the same as British or American: for example we would spell 'colour' with a 'u', but we would never spell 'tire' as 'tyre'. Just one of many. Getting caught up in this could just lead to trouble.

Furthermore, the average user/member probable doesn't bat an eye when they come across 'travelled/travelling' and probably couldn't tell me which country it comes from. ^o)

Well written summaries/notes are still well written, and to have variable spelling doesn't really lower the quality of the site.
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Message Posted On Friday, May 12th 2006 at 12:19 pm
On Friday, May 12th 2006 10:27 am, MoggIntellect wrote:
On Friday, May 12th 2006 9:29 am, bobpage87 wrote:
Also a question: for American shows it is compulsory to use American spelling, but is it compulsory to use British spelling for British shows, because if not, it really should be.


That's the prevailing idea/plan, but in my arrogant opinion, correct with either spelling is still correct. I think grammatical errors are far more important than changing 'colour' to 'color' or vice versa. ^o) Then you have Canadian spelling which is not exactly the same as British or American: for example we would spell 'colour' with a 'u', but we would never spell 'tire' as 'tyre'. Just one of many. Getting caught up in this could just lead to trouble.

Furthermore, the average user/member probable doesn't bat an eye when they come across 'travelled/travelling' and probably couldn't tell me which country it comes from. ^o)

Well written summaries/notes are still well written, and to have variable spelling doesn't really lower the quality of the site.


That brings up a good point: does an Editor or Global Editor need to become familiar with all of the variations of spelling between British, Canadian, Australian, American and other English-writing countries?

I *think* I can recognize most alternate spellings and not see them as misspellings (although until last year I was unaware of "phoetus"^o) ), but etymologies, dialects and foreign languages are among my passions. Is it reasonable to assume that every or even most Editors will be able to make the same distinctions with variations in the language between the cultures?

My stance is that Quotes should be written in the dialect with which they were delivered, period. So no Americanizations for British characters and vice versa. Summaries for British shows, as well as the various "Extras" ought to be in the dialect where the show originated... but that would almost require an Editor from that region. I'm not sure we are equipped to go there yet.
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Message Posted On Friday, May 12th 2006 at 4:52 pm
This stuff has crossed my mind before, but I think it's best to leave it as-is. People outside of the UK usually aren't familiar with the word series, while everyone from the UK 'gets' the term season. Changing this would probably leave alot of people confused.

And for the record, "season" and "series" are just two different words to describe the exact same thing.
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Message Posted On Monday, May 15th 2006 at 1:46 pm
On Friday, May 12th 2006 4:52 pm, Blae wrote:
This stuff has crossed my mind before, but I think it's best to leave it as-is. People outside of the UK usually aren't familiar with the word series, while everyone from the UK 'gets' the term season. Changing this would probably leave alot of people confused.

And for the record, "season" and "series" are just two different words to describe the exact same thing.


Although in this case they are two words for the same thing, in the US the term "TV Series" is usually accepted as including all seasons of a particular show. So using "Series" to mean two different things would just add confusion, as it has two different meanings. Best to use "season" for a group of episodes and "TV Show" as the entire collection, then there is no confusion.