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Zarius
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Message Posted On Monday, September 25th 2006 at 11:53 am
God I am sick of the narrow-minded bashing wrestling...you obviously have no freaking clue how many break themselves to entertain the fans
JLU_Batz01

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Message Posted On Monday, September 25th 2006 at 1:27 pm
On Tuesday, September 19th 2006 1:59 pm, Mikal wrote:
Only thing I watch on WB is Reba...I know a lot of people think it's stupid but I love it!


My mom and I watch that show all the time.
bardoz

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Message Posted On Monday, September 25th 2006 at 3:00 pm
The WB is sooo much better than UPN. I don't see how America's Next Top Model beat out Everwood. Well it could be its alot cheaper then Everwood and the CW looks very cheap with that crappy green and white logo.
WiseCrack
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Message Posted On Monday, September 25th 2006 at 3:07 pm
I don't like how they stole my initials, flipped them around, then turned it into a network name.

Greedy name stealin show cancellen' bastards.

WC=CW????.......WTF?!?!?!
rsetter3

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Message Posted On Monday, September 25th 2006 at 4:00 pm
I haven't watched either network much in the past few years, but I don't see how The WB did worse than UPN in the end. Hell, I didn't even know what UPN was until Buffy moved there (ain't that a coincidence? Buffy starts to get crappy after moving to UPN?). UPN's shows were f***ing crap. I can't even think of one cult classic other than the ones that moved to UPN from The WB. Even in the end The WB had 7th Heaven and Smallville, which were doing fine in the ratings. In fact, wasn't 7th Heaven killing all the other UPN and WB shows in the ratings this past year? What did UPN have that beat out The WB? .
dorkusmcforkus

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Message Posted On Monday, September 25th 2006 at 4:31 pm
WB was the better by network by far...up until 2002. They managed to get rid of all of their good shows, and replaced them with crap-tastic sitcoms, in a desperate attempts to find another "Reba" but had no luck. Throw in a slew of ratings-challenged dramas like One Tree Hill, Everwood, Tarzan, The Mountain, Jack & Bobby and you have your answer as to why they went downhill. Although The WB has had more successful series overall in their run and had a bigger fanbase than UPN, I believe that they needed this merger more than UPN.

The WB went to hell, and it was only going to get worse. UPN, although it suffered a slow few years was on the rise. With America's Next Top Model, it had its first reality hit-- something The WB was never able to do. Not to mention Smackdown, which also does fairly well in the ratings. And with Everybody Hates Chris, they were able to do something The WB was never able to do-- find a good sitcom. Sure they had Reba, but that show is in its final year and only got a mid-season pickup. Notice no other WB sitcoms made the CW cut. The only category The WB has been more successful in is with its more popular dramas. Gilmore GIrls, Supernatural and Smallville, vs UPN's one drama, Veronica Mars. But even then, 2 of the WB dramas are most likely in their last seasons (Season 7 and Season 6) , while Veronica Mars is still in Season 3. With the exception of Supernatural, The WB has had trouble finding a new hit drama in recent years. They were running out of steam, and once Gilmore Girls and Smallville would have ended, they would have been compltely lost. (You can't run an entire network with One Tree Hill and the elderly 7th Heaven, which will probably never die). So my point is, that while The WB has had a good run, they've finally run out of steam, whereas UPN has just found its footing and if The WB and UPN remained seperate networks for another 5 years, UPN would have pounded The WB in the ratings more than they already have been for the past 2 years.
rsetter3

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Message Posted On Monday, September 25th 2006 at 4:33 pm
On Monday, September 25th 2006 4:31 pm, dorkusmcforkus wrote:
WB was the better by network by far...up until 2002. They managed to get rid of all of their good shows, and replaced them with crap-tastic sitcoms, in a desperate attempts to find another "Reba" but had no luck. Throw in a slew of ratings-challenged dramas like One Tree Hill, Everwood, Tarzan, The Mountain, Jack & Bobby and you have your answer as to why they went downhill. Although The WB has had more successful series overall in their run and had a bigger fanbase than UPN, I believe that they needed this merger more than UPN.

The WB went to hell, and it was only going to get worse. UPN, although it suffered a slow few years was on the rise. With America's Next Top Model, it had its first reality hit-- something The WB was never able to do. Not to mention Smackdown, which also does fairly well in the ratings. And with Everybody Hates Chris, they were able to do something The WB was never able to do-- find a good sitcom. Sure they had Reba, but that show is in its final year and only got a mid-season pickup. Notice no other WB sitcoms made the CW cut. The only category The WB has been more successful in is with its more popular dramas. Gilmore GIrls, Supernatural and Smallville, vs UPN's one drama, Veronica Mars. But even then, 2 of the WB dramas are most likely in their last seasons (Season 7 and Season 6) , while Veronica Mars is still in Season 3. With the exception of Supernatural, The WB has had trouble finding a new hit drama in recent years. They were running out of steam, and once Gilmore Girls and Smallville would have ended, they would have been compltely lost. (You can't run an entire network with One Tree Hill and the elderly 7th Heaven, which will probably never die). So my point is, that while The WB has had a good run, they've finally run out of steam, whereas UPN has just found its footing and if The WB and UPN remained seperate networks for another 5 years, UPN would have pounded The WB in the ratings more than they already have been for the past 2 years.

Good answer my friend. But I'm still a bit confused. Didn't 7th Heaven dominate all other WB and UPN shows in the ratings last year? So how could they have lost in the ratings these past two years? As I said, I really haven't watched either network in the past few years, and I always assumed that The WB had the upper hand. I heard Veronica Mars sucks in the ratings. But since The WB still had some hits under it's belt, it's kinda hard to tell what would have happened. Oh well. Other than Smallville, The CW can eat my ass.
helpmegetpissed

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Message Posted On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 at 4:00 pm
On Monday, September 25th 2006 10:47 am, smw9211 wrote:
The WB has turned into a joke. I treat those channels like those religious and home shopping channels when I'm surfing: I just go right past, not even looking. Come to think of it, the WB has always had rediculous shows (Buffy, Angel, 7th Heaven). I mean rediculous unless you're a 13 year old girl. As for wrestling, it's not a sport, it's a physical soap opera.

Dude what the hell are you talking about? Buffy angel and 7th heaven was some of the biggest shows in the past 15 years.They had some of the best ratiing in past few years.....

Also about wreslting apparently you dont know jack crap about it,.I doubt you ca ndo half of the crap they have done in a daily bases..They give there life up for it every day they give up time from there family just to entetrain us fans...sorry unlike the soap opras and most thing on tv..What they do can really hurt them...Dotn belive me ask owen heart.

About the WB and UPN....They maily did it because they both wanted to became a huge tv comaply like abc cbs....

I do think they scewed up by bring 7th heaven back..Even mroe after watching the permer eps...Topmodel is alos a wast of a time slot..Sorry they dont really need it.....

Systemax

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Message Posted On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 at 4:11 pm
I have nothing against the CW; the only problem I have with it is that had WB still been its own separate network, Mercy Reef would have premiered alongside Smallville this season.
helpmegetpissed

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Message Posted On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 at 4:18 pm
On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 4:11 pm, Systemax wrote:
I have nothing against the CW; the only problem I have with it is that had WB still been its own separate network, Mercy Reef would have premiered alongside Smallville this season.

Yea i mean..JLA lost aquaman for crap now.....Thats just freakin gay...
rsetter3

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Message Posted On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 at 6:00 pm
On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 4:11 pm, Systemax wrote:
I have nothing against the CW; the only problem I have with it is that had WB still been its own separate network, Mercy Reef would have premiered alongside Smallville this season.

I heard it still may come midseason. I really don't understand why The CW passed on that one.
helpmegetpissed

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Message Posted On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 at 6:29 pm
On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 6:00 pm, rsetter3 wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 4:11 pm, Systemax wrote:
I have nothing against the CW; the only problem I have with it is that had WB still been its own separate network, Mercy Reef would have premiered alongside Smallville this season.

I heard it still may come midseason. I really don't understand why The CW passed on that one.

They didnt want to drop some of the higher rating shows..like......nexttopmodel and....7thheaven...
bardoz

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Message Posted On Sunday, October 1st 2006 at 1:47 pm
7th Heaven did bad in rateings on premiere night. Runaway got really crapty rateings too just over 2 mil viewers i think. I heard Mercy Reef aka Aquaman was too expensive to film... well for the cw anyway. The merging of the 2 networks was a mistake. WB had good shows like Everwood and the comedies which were canceled aswell as Aquaman and Split Decision. Americas Next Top Model is a joke, why would anyone care to see that crap. Does anyone really care to see how they become a model? just tell us and put something better on.
Systemax

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Message Posted On Sunday, October 1st 2006 at 2:50 pm
On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 6:00 pm, rsetter3 wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 4:11 pm, Systemax wrote:
I have nothing against the CW; the only problem I have with it is that had WB still been its own separate network, Mercy Reef would have premiered alongside Smallville this season.

I heard it still may come midseason. I really don't understand why The CW passed on that one.
I read, just as another user said, that it was too expensive to film, with the underwater shots and all. I find it odd that it would cost more than Smallville, with all of Clark's powers. Anyway, when exactly is mid-season? Winter?
rsetter3

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Message Posted On Sunday, October 1st 2006 at 3:24 pm
On Sunday, October 1st 2006 2:50 pm, Systemax wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 6:00 pm, rsetter3 wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27th 2006 4:11 pm, Systemax wrote:
I have nothing against the CW; the only problem I have with it is that had WB still been its own separate network, Mercy Reef would have premiered alongside Smallville this season.

I heard it still may come midseason. I really don't understand why The CW passed on that one.
I read, just as another user said, that it was too expensive to film, with the underwater shots and all. I find it odd that it would cost more than Smallville, with all of Clark's powers. Anyway, when exactly is mid-season? Winter?

I think it's suppose to be in March? Not sure.
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