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skyvolt2000

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Message Posted On Sunday, October 1st 2006 at 6:51 pm
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Good answer my friend. But I'm still a bit confused. Didn't 7th Heaven dominate all other WB and UPN shows in the ratings last year? So how could they have lost in the ratings these past two years? As I said, I really haven't watched either network in the past few years, and I always assumed that The WB had the upper hand. I heard Veronica Mars sucks in the ratings. But since The WB still had some hits under it's belt, it's kinda hard to tell what would have happened. Oh well. Other than Smallville, The CW can eat my ass.


7th Heaven's ratings weren't horrible. It was just that at times UPN's Monday night beat it in the ratings game. It was stil a ratings winner in WB terms. The WB only had the upper hand at dramas. They made a ton of horrible choices in shows like The Mountain, Jack & Bobby, Tarzan, Like Family and Just Legal. They also didn't give shows a chance like Birds of Prey. Or pilots like Lost in Space.

At least UPN gave shows a full season or a decent winter run. Just look at thier tracks records since 2001. UPN blew it when they dumped Kevin Hill (mainly due to death threats Taye Diggs got) and Enterprise.

And if you play race into the system, you can see why the WB lost. When you have only two people of color on all your shows combined, you just tuned out most of the country. At least on UPN you saw blacks, whites, hispanics, asians and others. I can't say the same for the WB. You do notice all the UPN shows on the CW feature people of color.

Veronica Mars is low rated and its no fault of the series. It has lacked a good lead in and gets killed by reruns. I mean why watch it on Tuesday when it airs on the weekend. If I was UPN, I would have aired it with Everybody Hates Chris instead of airing EHC with Love Inc and Cuts.
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Message Posted On Wednesday, October 4th 2006 at 9:34 pm
On Sunday, October 1st 2006 1:47 pm, bardoz wrote:
7th Heaven did bad in rateings on premiere night. Runaway got really crapty rateings too just over 2 mil viewers i think. I heard Mercy Reef aka Aquaman was too expensive to film... well for the cw anyway. The merging of the 2 networks was a mistake. WB had good shows like Everwood and the comedies which were canceled aswell as Aquaman and Split Decision. Americas Next Top Model is a joke, why would anyone care to see that crap. Does anyone really care to see how they become a model? just tell us and put something better on.

People like different things. The CW had to have a reality show, and AMNTM gets good ratings, so I don't think they would can it. I heard that they ordered two more seasons somewhere, and if ratings are still good, they'll order more. I think the CW passed on Aquaman probably cause they still have Smallville, and they are basically the same thing (not really, but generally speaking). Plus, the two shows together would be too expensive or something like you said. If I'm not mistaken, isn't ABC family airing new eps. of Everwood on their channel?
helpmegetpissed

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Message Posted On Wednesday, October 4th 2006 at 11:30 pm
Honestly. i dont see a change of the channel..It seems just like the WB but with like 4 UPN shows...They resorted the afternoon line up to have raymon and king and queens back to back...again...They killed the saturday morring cartoons by removing pokemon and showdown....They brought back 7heaven...Which was the biggest mistake they could of done because they screwed up the show now...I really dont care if people think the dad is the twins grand dad....the core essents of the show is over....So yea...There was no point....
Like i said i dont see that much of the channel....
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Message Posted On Thursday, October 5th 2006 at 5:07 am
Bringing back 7th heaven was a mistake, they should have let it died...10 years is good enough, plus the show wasn't that great to begin with. and yeah CW is basically the WB with 4 UPN shows, maybe a little more, give or take, so its basically useless calling the CW, might as well keep it as WB...WB i found to be slightly better then UPN, but not by much. it had angel, buffy, charmed (though the quality went far downhill season 4 and on), and i think thats about it. UPN didnt have anything memorable. but oh well, now i wait for the same thing to happen to FOX ^o^
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Message Posted On Thursday, October 5th 2006 at 12:01 pm
On Thursday, October 5th 2006 5:07 am, morninglight wrote:
Bringing back 7th heaven was a mistake, they should have let it died...10 years is good enough, plus the show wasn't that great to begin with. and yeah CW is basically the WB with 4 UPN shows, maybe a little more, give or take, so its basically useless calling the CW, might as well keep it as WB...WB i found to be slightly better then UPN, but not by much. it had angel, buffy, charmed (though the quality went far downhill season 4 and on), and i think thats about it. UPN didnt have anything memorable. but oh well, now i wait for the same thing to happen to FOX ^o^

No man FOx kicks ass!!!What i think they need tp do is start making other shows beside just the 8 shows on 8-9.They need to make new show to help replace some of the rerun of friends and king of queen and raymon....
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Message Posted On Thursday, October 5th 2006 at 2:15 pm
On Thursday, October 5th 2006 12:01 pm, helpmegetpissed wrote:
On Thursday, October 5th 2006 5:07 am, morninglight wrote:
Bringing back 7th heaven was a mistake, they should have let it died...10 years is good enough, plus the show wasn't that great to begin with. and yeah CW is basically the WB with 4 UPN shows, maybe a little more, give or take, so its basically useless calling the CW, might as well keep it as WB...WB i found to be slightly better then UPN, but not by much. it had angel, buffy, charmed (though the quality went far downhill season 4 and on), and i think thats about it. UPN didnt have anything memorable. but oh well, now i wait for the same thing to happen to FOX ^o^

No man FOx kicks ass!!!What i think they need tp do is start making other shows beside just the 8 shows on 8-9.They need to make new show to help replace some of the rerun of friends and king of queen and raymon....

FOX has some good shows, classics, and even has the number one and number two show in America, along with some of my personal favorites. You can't really compare FOX with UPN and The WB.

helpmegetpissed you're thinking about syndicated shows. Reruns of old shows run during the day and late at night on your local FOX. That's not really FOX itself.
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Message Posted On Thursday, October 5th 2006 at 2:26 pm
On Thursday, October 5th 2006 2:15 pm, rsetter3 wrote:
On Thursday, October 5th 2006 12:01 pm, helpmegetpissed wrote:
On Thursday, October 5th 2006 5:07 am, morninglight wrote:
Bringing back 7th heaven was a mistake, they should have let it died...10 years is good enough, plus the show wasn't that great to begin with. and yeah CW is basically the WB with 4 UPN shows, maybe a little more, give or take, so its basically useless calling the CW, might as well keep it as WB...WB i found to be slightly better then UPN, but not by much. it had angel, buffy, charmed (though the quality went far downhill season 4 and on), and i think thats about it. UPN didnt have anything memorable. but oh well, now i wait for the same thing to happen to FOX ^o^

No man FOx kicks ass!!!What i think they need tp do is start making other shows beside just the 8 shows on 8-9.They need to make new show to help replace some of the rerun of friends and king of queen and raymon....

FOX has some good shows, classics, and even has the number one and number two show in America, along with some of my personal favorites. You can't really compare FOX with UPN and The WB.

helpmegetpissed you're thinking about syndicated shows. Reruns of old shows run during the day and late at night on your local FOX. That's not really FOX itself.

No i was talking about CW...If they wanted to start freash they should of made tons of new show conecpts..They should of tried bagging the sydicated that the WB had and tryied to make some new shows or bring back some of the older once that they havent shown like 40 time a year....
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Message Posted On Thursday, October 5th 2006 at 5:04 pm
They should air Buffy during human hours.^o)
helpmegetpissed

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Message Posted On Thursday, October 5th 2006 at 7:38 pm
On Thursday, October 5th 2006 5:04 pm, andrew wrote:
They should air Buffy during human hours.^o)

They air buffy?
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Message Posted On Thursday, October 5th 2006 at 8:07 pm
On Thursday, October 5th 2006 7:38 pm, helpmegetpissed wrote:
On Thursday, October 5th 2006 5:04 pm, andrew wrote:
They should air Buffy during human hours.^o)

They air buffy?

I haven't seen Buffy on TV in a minute.
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Message Posted On Thursday, October 5th 2006 at 9:19 pm
FX airs Buffy at 6 AM CST
helpmegetpissed

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Message Posted On Thursday, October 5th 2006 at 9:27 pm
On Thursday, October 5th 2006 9:19 pm, andrew wrote:
FX airs Buffy at 6 AM CST

i dont get FX...Dirct tv change my packege and now i have only like 5 channel.
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Message Posted On Thursday, October 5th 2006 at 9:46 pm
On Wednesday, October 4th 2006 11:30 pm, helpmegetpissed wrote:
Honestly. i dont see a change of the channel..It seems just like the WB but with like 4 UPN shows


UPN shows=6
WB shows=5
New Shows=2

More UPN shows made the cut than WB shows.

Also The CW sucks big time. From its name to its fugly obnoxious logo, to its new "image". I hate everything about it. Plus somehow, all the series are doing worse in the ratings on The CW than they were on the seperate networks. I wish The WB and UPN never merged.
helpmegetpissed

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Message Posted On Friday, October 6th 2006 at 5:55 am
On Thursday, October 5th 2006 9:46 pm, dorkusmcforkus wrote:
On Wednesday, October 4th 2006 11:30 pm, helpmegetpissed wrote:
Honestly. i dont see a change of the channel..It seems just like the WB but with like 4 UPN shows


UPN shows=6
WB shows=5
New Shows=2

More UPN shows made the cut than WB shows.

Also The CW sucks big time. From its name to its fugly obnoxious logo, to its new "image". I hate everything about it. Plus somehow, all the series are doing worse in the ratings on The CW than they were on the seperate networks. I wish The WB and UPN never merged.

lol well yo uhave to keep in mind that Wb only had hour long shows...So the reason why they have more upn shows then the WB shows is because there only about 8 shows that WB have made....Upn did the 30 min long sitcoms....So yea it seems like they have more eps....WB still have more air time then the UPn....
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Message Posted On Friday, October 6th 2006 at 7:43 am
The CW ruins everything. It seems that Smallville's last good season was season 5 on the WB. Something happened during the transit, and the show sucks. I thought "Zod" was just going to suck, though I was completely unimpressed with "Sneeze", even though I shouldn't have been, as he'd just gotten a new superpower. In all the episodes where he develops a new superpower, they always handle them just right, however, they had too many subplots that were distracting and you couldn't focus on Clark, himself. I wonder what happened with John Glover, as he's just hamming it up on the show, now. Lana's lines are about as predictable as Lex and her never realizing Clark's powers. The only good actors left on the show are Tom Welling, Allison Mack, Erica Durance, and Annette O'Toole. I suppose Michael Rosenbaum is still good, though his predictable plots and subplots of the past two episodes are really killing the character. I have to agree on Batz on this one: this is Smallville's last season, unless they can get their acts together.
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